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在法律“两制”之间搭建沟通与融通的桥梁——访中国法律服务有限公司高级主任庄仲希
我们建立了这么一个渠道,对一国两制是很大的实践和贡献。中国委托公证人将发生在香港的法律事实和有意义的法律文件,用普通法的方式进行调查取证,用固定的格式出具文件,并符合内地用证的期望和要求,形成一个桥梁。这个桥梁就把两个不同法制的公证文书和商业活动保护交流起来。为什么说是一国两制的成功实践呢?它并没有体现谁吃了谁,它是完全按照香港普通法的方式来调查取证,拿到大陆用时必须按照大陆的要求,就是要调查了。其实香港律师打官司也要调查,但那只是为了某一方当事人。我们的调查是公证的、准法官的形式,代表司法部在这里审查文件,以普通法的原则调查取证,以两地法律结合的格式来出具文件,符合内地用证期望,这是一国两制最好的结合。这种结合在国际上没有过的。我们这个审核是平衡,在两地法律之间找到平衡点,建起一个新的实体证明的桥梁。
大概从1992年到现在,我们办了百万件案件。最近这两年,我们每天要审核的文件达350份以上。你在门口会看到很多人来送文件。这个制度设立起来,经过不断摸索探索,在探索过程中产生了很多新的理念、新的格式。回归前我们的公权力机关不能来香港查的,回归后我们为了保持香港的原汁原味也是不允许公权力机关、包括行政、执法、司法机关来查。那靠什么呢?要了解香港企业具体情况、个人情况,就靠这个制度。这是一个很好的制度。
记者:香港奉行普通法制度,与内地由中国特色社会主义法律制度有较大差异。您在工作中如何促使这两造能够对话?如何搭建一座法律互相理解之桥梁?
庄仲希:我们有很多渠道。比如,对委托公证人的培训。香港委托公证人到现在11批400多人,实际上全港一万多律师、35年功夫我们才委托了四百多人,都是很珍贵的人力资源。香港9任律师会会长都在这里面,第一任律政司长梁爱诗、现任商贸局局长苏锦梁都在里面。另外我们组织他们到内地,去看内地的法律建设,和两个律师会——大律师公会和香港律师会定了很多各种协议,去内地交流,和内地团体和律师机构以各种方式交流。印象中大律师公会似乎不食人间烟火,但实际上他们很愿意到内地去,这些工作都是比较难得的。只有交流沟通,大家才能理解彼此的想法和法律理念。像香港大律师,怎么总觉得他们和我们想的不一样?因为他们的是非观、价值观都是接受教育得来的,工作特点是闭门造车,不直接见客户,必须由事务律师接了客户一起再来见大律师,主要的职能就是上庭打官司,也不去调查,你给我材料、我就坐在屋里看着浩如烟海的案例和成文法,从中找一些符合这个案子的切入点和依据。所以他的理念、价值观都是固定的,要让他们走出来、交流,这个构想以及我们的实践是很不错的,能让他们去中国内地看到中国几十年开放、看到20年来香港和内地逐步发展的历史。
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