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绿城高管谈保姆纵火案:公司没必要补消防检查记录

2017-07-02 09:49:59   经济观察报

经济观察报:为什么你们的说法和受害者家属的说法有多处不一致?

吴志华:监控是有记录的,小区出入口、电梯、门都是有记录的,消控设备启动时间、烟感什么时候报警、消防广播什么时候启动、排风机什么时候启动,都会有记录,所以事发当天我们的消防监控中心就被消防部门接管控制了,整栋楼也被警察控制了,消防部门把原始的记录调走了,调走之后才把消防监控中心交还给我们。

经济观察报:他们说是工作人员阻拦了家属第一时间救人?

吴志华:受害者的哥哥是跟着保安队长上去的。消防救灾专业度还是蛮高的,救灾的过程中要建立隔离带的,防止无关人员的进入,我们的监控记录显示,5:15分消防进入这个小区,我们肯定是接受消防部门的指挥,配合做协助救援的工作,也是我们工作不到位,家属还是跟上去了。当时楼下的人基本上撤光了,保安队长通过另外一个单元的消防楼到顶层,然后翻到这边的天台,下到18楼时才发现身后跟着一个人。当时应该是看到保姆房门打开了,一个消防人员在灭火,温度太高了,后面的消防人员对着前面的人一喷水,当时家属要冲进去救人,我们的保安就把他拦住了,说太危险了。

经济观察报:28号晚间的声明说,确实有篡改消防检查记录的情况,部分消火栓也无法正常打开?

吴志华:确实我们存在漏检的情况,但也有一些情况是业主的鞋柜等家具把电梯前室消火栓全部堵住了,我们没办法检查。到目前为止还是有一些消火栓是被业主的家具、鞋柜挡住没法打开的,以前就发过整改通知单,昨天又再次通知了,但是很多业主拒签。

当然根据业主拍的视频,确实是我们保安队员补了记录。从公司的角度来说,我们没有必要去补记录,因为和事故有关的材料已经被消防部门全部封存。保安的心理压力确实非常大,工作中的确也存在一些瑕疵,但是你不能否认他们想去救人的,结果救人之后面临了这么大的非议,他们也快崩溃了,都是20来岁的小伙子。看到舆论后,第一反应是赶紧去补救下,补记了记录。所以这个事,是我们管理层的责任,肯定是管理的问题,我们会全面反思、自我整顿。所以在给业主做心理疏导的时候,也在给员工做心理疏导。

事故发生后,我们正常的反应肯定是要对消防设备进行一次检查的,第一查看消防设备用过之后有没有问题、管道加压后有没有漏水,第二我们要去检查其他消火栓的完好状况,发现问题及时排除,但引发了业主质疑,所以我们中途就停掉了。检查的时候确实发现有消火栓门打不开的情况。我们后来也去补拍了视频,跟业主解释过了,演示消防栓水带接口如何使用。

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